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Excerpt from Freud's study of Leonardo Da Vinci

Posted on January 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM

Homosexual men who have started in our times an energetic action against the legal restrictions of their sexual activity are fond of representing themselves through theoretical spokesmen as evincing a sexual variation, which may be distinguished from the very beginning, as an intermediate stage of sex or as a "third sex". In other words they maintain that they are men who are forced by organic determinants originating in the germ, to find that pleasure in the man which they cannot feel in the woman.


"As much as one would wish to subscribe to their demands out of humane considerations, one must nevertheless exercise reserve regarding their theories, which were formulated without regard for the psychogenesis of homosexuality. Psychoanalysis offers the means to fill this gap and to put to the test the assertions of homosexuals.


"It is true that psychoanalysis fulfilled this task in only a small number of people, but all investigations thus far undertaken brought the same surprising results. In all our male homosexuals there was a very intense erotic attachment to a feminine person, as a rule to the mother, which was manifest in the very first period of childhood and later entirely forgotten by the individual. This attachment was produced or favored by too much love from the mother herself, but was also furthered by the retirement or absence of the father himself during the childhood period…


"It seems almost that the presence of a strong father would assure for the son the proper decision in the selection of his object from the opposite sex.

Is Homosexuality Genetic?

Posted on January 5, 2016 at 3:10 PM

Author / Contributor :: Dr. Neil Whitehead


Twin Studies: Is Homosexuality Genetic?


Written By: Dr. Neil Whitehead ( http://www.mygenes.co.nz/ ) (Posted January 2008)


E-mail: whiteh@paradise.net.nz


The answer to all the alleged biological influences is conclusions from - Twin Studies.


In this paper I describe a very simple form, which avoids many complications and gives us the information we need. Usually identical twins are compared with non-identical twins. In the case of SSA this has given very ambiguous results, but we find if we only consider identical twins, the situation becomes much clearer.


We compare whether both identical twins have a given trait. Identical twins have identical genes. And they usually have identical womb environment. And they have virtually identical upbringing. So if they both have the same trait, probably some combination of common genes, prenatal factors and upbringing is responsible. So the critical question is – if one twin has SSA, does the other twin? And in what percentage of cases?



Look carefully at the next figure:


Figure 8. Pairwise concordance among identical twins for 1 Lung Cancer, 2 Criminality, 3 Stroke, 4 Breast Cancer, 5 Same Sex Attraction, 6 Leukemia, 7 Malformation, 8 Alzheimer's, 9 Ulcerative Colitis, 10 Rheumatoid Arthritis, 11 Alcoholism, 12 Schizophrenia, 13 Depression, 14 Suicide attempt, 15 Diabetes type I, 16 Divorce, 17 Crohn's disease, 18 Asthma, 19 Hypertension, 20 Co twin is best friend, 21 Diabetes type II, 22 Autism, 23 Opposite Sex Attraction, 24 Phenylketonuria


The top point, #24 is phenylketonuria, caused by a known gene defect. If one twin has it, the other twin almost always has it. #23 is OSA. The concordance is very high. If one twin is OSA the other is usually OSA as well. However we cannot tell from this whether it is caused by genes, upbringing, or some combination. The concordances decrease as we move to the left, until we reach SSA which has a concordance of 11%. The other points with that kind of value are the cancers, which all oncologists will tell you have a large element of chance involved. SSA has a large element of chance in it. In fact we have to say it has an unusually large element of chance in it compared to most traits. By change we mean non-shared events, which affect one twin and not the other.


This 11% is a terribly important statistic. All the common biological and social influences known and unknown and yet to be discovered, add up to 11% concordance for men and 14% for women twins. All that long list of biological influences previously given in this paper are included, and they only add up to 11-14%.


Four papers agree that SSA pairwise concordance has about this value. One of them, a paper on adolescent twins found an SSA concordance of 7% for men and 5% for women, which is even lower but in the same ballpark. So we have to take it the figure is accurate and not going to change. If one twin has SSA the other usually does not.


There is one complication. People may say to you “I thought the concordance figure was 30%” or they may say “52%”. It is a fact that the early studies had higher figures but are also now universally acknowledged (and by their authors) to be highly biased samples. It is also a fact that they were quoting a concordance called “probandwise concordance” which is more complex than the “pairwise” concordance I quoted to you, significantly higher, and used in later calculations that do not immediately concern us in this paper. The only important conclusion is that whichever form is used, SSA would still be clustered among the traits with a very high chance component. The irony is that far from being a trait with extremely high degree of dictation by genes, it is almost as far from that as it is possible to get. This is another sad example of the public tending to believe the exact opposite of the truth in scientific matters SSA dictated? The exact opposite. I hope that from now on you will not be disturbed into thinking the genes or prenatal conditions are overwhelmingly important, regardless of what new discoveries may emerge.


Four years ago I spoke at the annual NARTH conference, and used the higher probandwise concordance figures. At that stage I was too conservative. I said the genetic effect was small. Now I would say “unusually smallâ€.


The gay activist may say to you – “Oh SSA is still dictated by the genes, but they are not exerting their effects – this is a known genetic phenomenon called poor penetrance”. The answer is that you have to have a known gene or genes producing the trait before you can say that, and in this case there are no genes. You might say to such a person “Please come back when a gene is found!


Now I want to clarify some points because there is significant risk of misunderstanding. I am not saying 11% of all twins have SSA – only about 2-3% do. I am not saying when a twin has SSA that in their case there is genetic influence and in other cases no genetic influences – all of us are subjected to all the genetic and social influences.


Why twins might differ


Now this analysis I am presenting shows that chance – non-shared experience - is an unusually large factor and accounts for differences between identical twins. What would be examples of this?



One twin sees internet SSA porn and the other doesn't

One twin misperceives the father favoring the co-twin

One twin is unlucky in (heterosexual) love and thinks he is gay

One twin is sexually abused and the other is not



Chance events, non-shared circumstances can lead to very different endpoints.



Now a disturbing factor for some at this conference may be to hear that not only are genetics a minor factor but family circumstances are also. While this is generally true for the vast majority, there is a small minority for whom the family circumstances are vitally important. But if one twin rebels against the masculinity expressed by his father or peers, the other usually does not. This is a chance occurrence, and as a generalisation parents are mostly not to blame for the SSA of their children. Accidental misperception of parental motives is much more common.

Homosexuality: Choice or Consequence?

Posted on January 5, 2016 at 2:50 PM

Written By Ben Newman


Gay sympathizers insist that homosexuality is not a choice. On this point I completely agree. It is not a choice. No man I know or have heard of who deals with homosexuality, whether they reject and struggle against it or embrace it with pride, feels like they ever chose these desires.


It is not a choice, it is a consequence -- an unintended consequence of a lifetime of choices -- conscious, subconscious and unconscious. It is an unfortunate but natural consequence of choices made by a growing boy that were intended only to protect himself against rejection and hurt, to make himself feel safe, and to do what seemed most natural.


One can hardly fault a little boy for running away from male peers he felt were taunting and frightening and for preferring the company of girls he felt were accepting and easy-going. One can hardly fault a little boy for rejecting and protecting himself from a seemingly cold or harsh or absent or disinterested father, or for expressing his naturally artistic and sensitive talents while rejecting what for him are the frightening, unfamiliar and uncomfortable rough-and-tumble games of boyhood. After all, he is only trying to take care of himself, feel safe and be true to himself, as best as an innocent (and unguided) little boy knows how.


Little does he know that all of these perfectly understandable and innocent choices, in combination, and without intervention, can lead to horrendous unintended consequences. These choices can ultimately cause him to fail to discover his innate masculinity, fail to bond with his gender, and fail to develop a healthy gender identity as a man among men. And unable to find his own masculinity within, he can begin to seek it outside of himself, to envy it in other boys and men, and finally to lust for it sexually. His choices can have the

very unintended consequence of causing him to see himself as the opposite of men -- to see other men as the opposite sex. And so, being their opposite, he naturally feels drawn to them sexually to give himself that sense of completeness, wholeness, balance and

oneness that sexuality is designed to provide.


The problem is, many (perhaps most or even all?) men never really find in homosexual relationships that sense of completeness and balance that they long for, because in homosexuality they give away their masculinity to their partner. They turn to another man to fill the masculine emptiness within themselves. And though they may feel maleness for a moment outside of themselves, and revel in being able to touch it externally for a moment, they are left feeling even more detached from their own inner masculinity and void of a sense of maleness they have been craving all their lives.


The question to the now-grown man becomes, what will you do with this history of choices and their unintended but inextricably attached consequences? No one I have ever heard of has been able to simply choose to stop feeling homosexual desires -- after all, the desires

aren't chosen, they are the result of a web of other, more primal choices. You can't unchoose the consequences while continuing to make the same original choices.


Nor can you change past choices you have already made. That is your history and must be accepted. But that doesn't limit you to make the same choices now, in the present. This is the terrifying, thrilling, exciting and satisfying part of homosexual recovery -- learning to

make all-new choices about the kind of man you will be now, the way you see yourself as a man, the way you see other men, the way you relate to men in your life, the way you relate to the world of men, and the way you see women and relate to women.


Today, as a grown man with much greater understanding about choices and their consequence, as a grown man with many resources for support to turn to, and not as a hurt and needy little boy, you can make different choices. Healthy choices. Constructive choices. Empowering choices.


Perhaps you will choose to work on no longer rejecting your father outright and instead to find the good in him that you can embrace and, yes, even accept as a role model. Perhaps you will choose to work on no longer seeing heterosexual men as destructive and

frightening, or no longer rejecting the entire masculine realm out of hurt and spite. Perhaps you will choose to work on overcoming defensive detachment, or no longer running from meaningful relationships with heterosexual men. Perhaps you will choose to begin to focus on your similarities with other men instead of your differences.


These new attitudes and beliefs and ways of relating will take time to learn and to develop. This is a chosen path of careful and deliberate reconstruction of the inner self. You will be ridding yourself of the long-established and familiar attitudes and beliefs and character traits and ways of being with others that have had negative consequences in your life, or the outcomes you don't want, and instead embracing and developing those that have positive consequences in your life, or the outcomes you do want.


(By emphasizing that these things can be chosen, I don't mean to suggest that change is a moment in time. The decision to pursue change might be, but the change itself -- as anyone who has ever pursued personal growth or enlightenment knows -- can take months or years or a lifetime.)


Then, as real change begins to take effect, the consequences will inevitably follow: You will discover a sense of inner male power and innate masculinity you previously only saw in others. Men will eventually stop appearing to be the opposite sex from you. You will

begin to see heterosexual men as your peers and will begin to identify with them in a bond of brotherhood as you never have before. And as your masculine identity develops, your desire to connect sexually and romantically with your opposite will gradually, quietly begin to turn from the men you once saw as the opposite sex to the women (or a woman) that you, as a firmly grounded man, now recognize as your true opposite.


So as a man among men, what new choices will you begin to make today?

AN EX-GAY COMMUNITY RESPONSE TO: �??Genome-wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation�??

Posted on November 20, 2014 at 11:00 AM

AN EX-GAY COMMUNITY RESPONSE TO: “Genome-wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation” 17 November 2014 [1]




Media outlets are flush with the rush to promote yet another inconclusive hypothesis attempting to tie biological factors to the penchant for homosexual behavior. After an unusual 7 year tweaking before release, Dr. Alan Sanders of NorthShore University HealthSystem Research Institute et al, compared the genes of 409 gay twin brothers (the largest twin sampling to date). The team argues that they found linkages to the X Chromosome 8 region and Xq28 but were unable to cite any actual gene. This runs contrary to the conclusions of eight other international twin studies examining the same notion[2] with the exception of Dr. Dean Hamer’s claim to find Chromosome 8 involvement 20 years ago but also failing to find any actual gene.


The inability to find and verify gene involvement makes the entire exercise of identifying linkages fruitless since there can be no linkage between non-existent entities. This leaves wide open the interpretation of what these researchers are seeing within these chromosome bands. Sanders himself describes his results as, “not proof but a pretty good indication.” An indication of what remains to be seen. Meanwhile, the reaction by genetic experts ranges from skeptical to completely dismissive. Dr. Robert Green, medical geneticist at Harvard Medical School called the study, “intriguing but not in any way conclusive” and Dr. Neil Risch, genetics expert at UC San Francisco states the data is too statistically weak to suggest any linkage (with homosexual preference.)[3]


Of bizarre concern is Sander’s use of a deprecated genetic method. Genetic linkages have been replaced with GWA (genome-wide association) methodology in genetic science which gives a higher, but still not guaranteed, association between a given gene and a behavior. Sanders admitted it would have been the preferable approach but it was the only way to try to expound on Hamer’s failed attempt 20 years ago. Ken Kendler, an editor at Psychological Medicine admitted it was a surprise to see Sanders submit a study using the old technique and Sanders admits that one publication turned down his submission outright.[4] Sanders has announced his intention of a GWA study using an even larger sample group.


It is the opinion of most in the ex-gay community that scientific research would be better utilized addressing the knowns of same-sex attraction, such as the high child sexual abuse and childhood trauma histories found in research which is more results oriented by healing traumas that often lead to same-sex attractions and therapies that eliminate unwanted same-sex attraction. This more appropriately achieves the goals of the American Psychological Association’s vow to patient self-determination. Much like the already proven genetic components of depression and anxiety disorders, genetic involvement only contributes to predilection and has no bearing at all on outcomes. Thus, any genetic discovery while interesting is irrelevant to ultimate behavioral self-management and choice.


[1] “Genome-wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation”


A. R. Sanders, E. R. Martin, G. W. Beecham, S. Guo, K. Dawood, G. Rieger, J. A. Badner, E. S. Gershon, R. S. Krishnappa, A. B. Kolundzija, J. Duan, P. V. Gejman and J. M. Bailey


Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, NorthShore University HealthSystem Research Institute, Evanston, IL, USA


[2] "EIGHT MAJOR STUDIES of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way."Dr. Neil Whitehead is author of the book, "My Genes Made Me Do It" – a scientific look at sexual orientation (1999/USA; revised 2nd edition, 2010) and over 140 published scientific papers.


[3] “Study Suggests Genetic Link for Male Homosexuality”, November 17th, 2014, Associated Press.


[4] “Study of gay brothers may confirm X chromosome link to homosexuality”, 17 November 2014, AAAS Science Magazine.


John Ozanich, VP The Jason Foundation

A Letter from Switzerland

Posted on November 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM

We just got this one:


Hello! My Name is Thomas K. I am from Zurich, Switzerland. I am an Ex-Gay. I am pleased and at the same time surprised somehow to see here on Facebook that by far I am not the only one, because in my real life I am looked at as if I came frome another planet when I tell to someone being an Ex-Gay. I do not know if you understand German language; perhaps you do and so will read the text I wrote about my way becoming an Ex:



Der Weg war hart und schmerzvoll. Die Kraft, ihn zu begehen, fand ich erst, nachdem aus verschwommener, wertloser Gewohnheitsgläubigkeit wirklicher Glaube geworden war. Durch ihn fand ich letztlich zu tiefer Überzeugung und quellklarem Empfindungswissen. Und damit gleichzeitig zu einer so kraftvollen, lebendigen und mächtigen Hilfe, die rational zu beschreiben mir als unmöglich erscheint. Heute, da ich meine Vergangenheit ungeschönt im Lichte der Wahrheit sehe und mich von den mich niederhaltenden Fesseln befreit weiss, erscheint mir der Mensch, der zu werden ich durch den falschen Weg der Homosexualität zugelassen hatte und der ich ausserhalb meines innersten seelischen Kerns geworden war, zu einem beträchtlichen Teile äusserst fremd. Mir ist dabei, als würde ich auf die von mir verlassene Hülle einer menschlichen Gestalt zurückblicken; zwar wissend, dass ich sie ausfüllte und dennoch befremdet ob dieser Tatsache.

Ich weiss, wovon ich schreibe, denn ich habe es 38 Jahre lang erlebt und beobachtet: Homosexuelle haben den Kern ihres männlichen Selbst unzureichend entwickelt. Auf dieser Entwicklungsblockade beruht eine unheilvolle Störung in ihrer Persönlichkeit, die sich auf vielfältigste und unterschiedlichste Weise bemerkbar machen kann. Aufgrund eines zu schwach entwickelten männlichen Selbst besteht kein tieferes, männliches Identitätsempfinden; auch die attraktivsten äusseren Männlichkeitsattribute vermögen daran nichts zu ändern. Sie sehnen sich deshalb nach der für sie „geheimnisvollen“, da ihrem eigenen Kern fremden Männlichkeit heterosexueller Männer, die sie eben deshalb erotisch in Bann zieht, weil sie diese in sich selbst nicht empfinden. Ihr rastloses getrieben Sein, wofür sich die Bezeichnung „Cruising“ ergab, hat so gut wie nichts mit einer Suche nach Zuwendung, Partnerschaft und Liebe zu tun. Sie nennen es zuweilen selbstironisch die Suche nach dem Traumprinzen, die Suche nach dem Supermann – also nach dem, was es nicht geben kann. In der Tat – was gesucht wird, kann es nicht geben, denn die Suche beinhaltet einen durch die psychosexuelle Fehlentwicklung entstandenen, unbewussten Drang nach Erlösung von der eigenen Unmännlichkeit durch sexuelle Kontakte mit anderen Männern, wenngleich in der Regel zwangsläufig solchen, denen dasselbe Männlichkeitsdefizit eigen ist. Ein Orgasmus kann Erlösung dieser Art nicht bringen und so geht die Suche, die naturgemäss erfolglos bleiben muss, da der unerkannte Ursprung des Problems nicht auf der körperlichen Ebene liegt und sich - unter anderem - auf Letzterer bloss auswirkt, danach unvermindert weiter. Es ist, als würde mit jedem Orgasmus ein noch stärkerer Geist aus der Flasche gelassen, der die Betreffenden mit den Jahren in eine zusehends unersättlicher werdende sexuelle Begierde versetzt, die unstillbar bleiben muss, vergleichbar mit lauter positiven Energiepolen, die sich lediglich hochzuschaukeln, den unabänderlichen Gesetzen der Natur entsprechend aber niemals aufzuheben vermögen. So wird zusehends der Weg ständigen Suchens nach einem Phantom zum suchtgewordenen Ziel, versklavt sich fast unmerklich das Seelische - und damit Eigentliche eines Menschen – den entfesselten Trieben des Körpers und wird von Letzterem beherrscht anstatt umgekehrt. Wie immer ein solches Leben von aussen besehen dem ahnungslosen und oberflächlichen Betrachter erscheinen mag und in Medien dargestellt wird – hip, aufregend, bunt, selbstbestimmt – es ist ein in sich unfreier, unerfüllter, glückloser Weg, der wie in einer vorgegebenen, naturgemässen Spirale in jeder Hinsicht nur in eine Richtung führen kann: Nach unten. Es ist der luziferische Paradeweg – die Verführung zum körperlichen Ausleben und zum Kompensationsversuch einer im seelisch-geistigen Bereich bestehenden Schwäche anstelle ihres Erkennens und Überwindens in dem Bereich, wo sie entstand.

Thomas K.


(Used with permission)


Posted on August 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Things epigenetics taught us:

- Genes can be molded

- Environment and our actions, words and thoughts decide upon which genes will be activated or deactivated and in what form they will be activated (one gene can have totally different effects)

- Each second of our lives our brain structure and our genetic code is being changed through our actions, words and thoughts and through our environment - changes that can be passed on to future generations.

- Genes have a very complex interaction among one another and with external factors. To say that there is one gene that "makes you gay" and that there is nothing you can do about it is complete nonsense and has nothing at all to do with science, but rather with politics and wishful thinking.

I've Always Been Different!

Posted on June 6, 2014 at 3:45 PM

How many times have we heard those words from people with same-sex attractions – and how many times have we said them ourselves?

We “are” different. Are we?

Think about it – we use that word as if it were a part of our personality or a character trait. Without even thinking about whether this is correct or even healthy.

We might be honest, devoted, persistent, adventurous – all of which are character traits that define our inner selves. But different?

Being different is not something that comes from within us. It is not part of our character. Being different simply says that we are different in relationship to someone else.

If we use that as a personality trait, as a label that characterizes us we might cause a self-fulfilling prophecy: We might become different in the sense of “weird” or “freaky”.

Yes, we are different. Everybody is different! That is not something that defines us though. What we probably mean to say is we never felt part of the gang back then in the days. We never liked to play football with other boys or something like that. Then let’s call it exactly like that: I have never liked to play football. This is a value-free statement and should stay such. If we say we are different that sounds as if there is something wrong with us, as if we are worth less than somebody else.

And there lies the root cause of that statement: Our self-worth and our masculine (or feminine) identity. Both of which, however, can never come from the outside. We are not worth something because of what others think about us, but because we are beloved children of God. That’s where we draw our real value and worth from. And we do not find our masculine identity on the outside (even though the interaction with other men is crucial for the development of it), but only within ourselves – and by looking up to the most perfect picture or manhood: Jesus. We find our true identity in the One in whose image we were created.

That might sound like a minor detail to some and yet it says a lot about what’s going on inside of us. Also the way we talk has an influence on the way we think and act, se we better be careful about we self-identify.


Born gay or not...does it matter?

Posted on March 27, 2014 at 5:00 PM Comments comments (0)

There is a lot of argument about whether people are born gay or not. The pro-gay crowd wants it to be so, because then they can claim God made them that way, so of course it is OK. The conservative Christians want to say no, you are not born gay, for then they would have to agree it isn't fair of God to expect a gay person to fight his or her feelings.


 I read a comment recently that has made me wonder if it really matters. And if we should even argue against it. If there is a "gay gene" found some day, then Christians are going to have egg on their face, and will have their very foundation of homosexuality being wrong, shaken.


 I personally don't believe people are born gay, but also have learned not to be too dogmatic about that. I do believe people can be born with a predisposition to being gay, and their environment and circumstances can swing them one way or the other.


 But I am going to go with the idea that people can be born gay. The Bible says homosexuality is wrong, as the act and lusting, so therefore, it is unfair of God to let someone be born gay and forbid them to give into their desires. Right? Wrong.


 We are all born sinners, thanks to Adam and Eve. We are all born with the desire to sin, to do wrong, and the same Bible that forbids homosexual behavior, forbids any sinful behavior. A heterosexual man or woman has the desire to have sex, the temptation to lust, and granted, they can marry, but not all of them. I know, and have known, several women who never married. They wanted to, but it never happened. I am sure there have been heterosexual men who wanted to marry, and never did..... and it would have been a sin for them to lust, to have sex with someone they were not married to, as the person attracted to the same gender.


 And there are other sins we are prone to do, that feel natural to us to do, yet we must fight those urges and live for God, not ourselves. Just as the person who may be born gay has to fight his desires to give in and sin, we all have to fight the desire to sin and live for the flesh, instead of for God.


 Is it fair that someone who is attracted to the same gender can never marry, can never know what it is like to be in love and have a relationship that others have? No. It isn't. Some manage to marry a person of the opposite sex and make it work, and many do not. But life isn't fair.




  When I get frustrated about the cross I must bear, and get to thinking that it isn't fair, a couple of people come to my mind. Joni Eareckson Tada, and Nick Vujicic.




  In 1978, at the age of 17, Joni dove into some water and broke her neck, paralyzing her body from the neck down. Since 1978, she has been in a wheel chair, yet God has used her in ways she could never have been used if she were whole. Is it fair? Certainly not. She found a way to paint by holding a paintbrush in her mouth, and has written several books, recorded CDs, and started a program for people to get wheel chairs who cannot afford them. She served God no matter what, and He uses her for good.




 Nick Vujicic was born with no arms or legs, having only a foot. His parents decided when he was very young, that he would live as much as possible as kids with all of their limbs. He surfs, swims, goes all over the world speaking, and got married a little over a year ago and has fathered a child with his wife. Is it fair that he was born the way he was? No way. But what an amazing attitude he has, and God is using him all over the world. If anyone had a right to say it isn't fair, it would be him, but he decided to live life to the fullest and let God use him.


 People are born with all sorts of diseases and deformities. There are people going through their own private hells that we don't know anything about. Is it fair? No it isn't fair, but life isn't fair. When sin entered the world, fairness was tossed out the window.


  So is it fair that men and women have to suffer same-sex attractions, and according to God's Word, never be allowed to give in to those attractions/desires? No. And it isn't easy to ignore what seems to come to naturally.


 But you know what? It wasn't fair that God's Son was nailed to a cross for our sins. He did no wrong, and was totally innocent. Yet He died for our sins. He went through unimaginable pain and horror for us. For the gay person. For the murderer, the child molester, for Joni Eareckson Tada, Nick Vucicic, Adolf Hitler.


 We are all born sinners, with a bent and desire to give into that sin. Gay people are not the only ones who must fight what comes naturally.


 Some day it will be worth it all, when we hear Jesus say "Well done". In the mean time, we must all forsake our sins, take up our cross, die daily to ourselves and our desires, and serve God no matter what. Whether you're gay, or straight.


Mark B.